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And I did the math, and I think at that point in time, roughly speaking, assets in ETS were roughly just 10 percent, 12 percent of assets in mutual funds and I was pretty convinced that that number was to increase significantly. I mean, I always say it depends on the economies or the scale of the business that you are considering.
I was always good at math, but I really, I just didn’t relate to things that were more esoteric bonds options. I worked in sort of a quasi portfoliomanagement role for like a single client account type business. Is this still a persistent drag on, on their economy and what does that mean to their real estate?
I’d say management consulting is any of the other thing that least at that time was the other career trajectory, just my personality, more of a math oriented introvert. Now I do fundamental side research portfoliomanagement, which I just, 00:08:20 [Speaker Changed] So, so you joined GMO, there’s 60 people, 30 years.
So, first, I found the book to be quite fascinating, very in depth and you managed to take some of the more technical arcana and make it very understandable. You began as a central bank portfoliomanager in Finland. So, that relationship actually already started when I was a portfoliomanager, right? ILMANEN: Yes.
Which was interesting because I actually started my career at JP Morgan Asset Management in the high yield and investment grade credit research team. And I did a lot of options math, which I thought was interesting. Do we invest in emerging market countries because their economies are growing?
00:03:14 [Mike Greene] So that was actually an outgrowth from my experience coming out of Wharton and you mentioned the, the, you know, the transition of people who tended to be skilled at math or physics into finance. There’s a continual, the economy continues to grow. I’m gonna hold it in my portfolio.
But it was a tremendous experience because I had started off in bond trading, worked my way into portfoliomanagement and running the bond indexing team for a number of years, and then I got asked to take this responsibility, which was much broader. Yes, the economy can clearly keep roaring along, which we’ve seen.
So I, I did a math degree at Oxford, which is more pure math. You know, pure math can be very theoretical and detached from the real world, and it’s getting worse. Those have compounded over the centuries and have managed to amass a huge amount of, of capital. We meet with management twice a year.
Sander Gerber : Well, actually I was good at math. And it gives us a batting average so we can understand is a portfoliomanager winning more ideas than they lose. Because if you don’t include every single data point, then in the matrix math you have a divide by zero issue. What was the career plan?
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00:31:40 [Speaker Changed] So there’s the emotions and then there’s the math, right? We have a very robust economy. We’ve re levered the economy, if you will, where the leverage of the private sector, the household sector, the corporate sector that got us into the great financial crisis that’s been healed.
I’m kind of in intrigued by the idea of philosophy and math. So I found myself getting kind of bored with my math problem sets, and then I could shift to philosophy and then go back and forth. I think it’s not just new economy chip purveyors, but it’s also the companies that buy the chips and become better.
If you are at all interested in fixed income, how you assess bonds, how you evaluate the economy, the market, what the fed’s gonna do, what clients want, how to assess risk in credit markets, well then you are gonna really enjoy this conversation. That’s where the economy was at that point. But those guys are great, right?
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I’d been ranked i i back in the seventies, if you can do the math. Hustle was managing institutional right assets. Your real business is having the best perspective of what is happening this moment in the economy. He helps portfoliomanagers make sense of the world. Your side hustle. Not, not useful.
And it was day by day from the seat of, it was the month that the economy shut down. And it’s two dozen CEOs, investors, policy makers from like all across the economy. It’s kind of apparent some of these industries are going to be the first to really succumb to an economy shutting down. Did they self-selected?
Jeffrey Sherman : Well, what it was was, so I, as I said, with applications, there’s many applications of math, and the usually obvious one is physics. Barry Ritholtz : It seems that some people are math people and some people are not. The, the math came easier. And I really hated physics, really. It’s so true.
The economy, the markets, and the world-at-large provide unlimited fodder for them. That’s why the markets are much more of a mind game than a math game. And that’s why markets will always be exceedingly hard, even when the math seems easy or the future seems certain. ” Nobody does. And lots of surprises.
As always, I lead with Wall Street, the markets, and the economy, the objects of my day job. William Priest, chairman, co-chief investment officer, and a portfoliomanager at TD Epoch, picked Meta (+66 percent), which handily beat the S&P 500, but his other four picks did not. 2024 wasn’t any different.
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