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Both in terms of the aggregate revenue of our company, size of our portfolio, we’re probably now something like 150 total investments, many hundreds of billions of revenue, hundreds of thousands of employees if you add up all of the companies in which we’re invested. It kind of helped us get off the ground, so to speak.
The transcript from this week’s, MiB: Antti Ilmanen, Co-Head, Portfolio Solutions, AQR , is below. BARRY RITHOLTZ; HOST; MASTERS IN BUSINESS: This week on the podcast, I have an extra special guest, Antti Ilmanen is AQR’s Co-head of the Portfolio Solutions Group. CO-HEAD, AQR’S PORTFOLIO SOLUTIONS GROUP: Thanks, Barry.
In 1997, he founded Gerber Asset Management to develop and engage in proprietary investment strategies. In late 2005, Mr. Gerber and Yoav Roth co-founded Hudson Bay Capital, which concentrates on generating positive returns while maintaining a focus on riskmanagement and capital preservation.
But there’s also a lot of, like at Wittel, you know, I was at Wachtel in 2005 to 2007, so really near the peak of a big merger’s boom. It was derivatives math, it was like working with the traders on like riskmanagement. And I love that. I thought that was really fun. So I was very interested in that stuff.
So we really have to understand what we’re gonna invest in, value everything in the universe, rank order ’em, and then only can we put together portfolios. And the second, and this is very credit specific, was when you own a credit portfolio, your short volatility. 00:08:45 [Speaker Changed] Huh, interesting.
And the third, the one that nobody talks about is riskmanagement. Riskmanagement. And so that’s not just, we talk about riskmanagement in terms of buying at a big discount to intrinsic value and then that gives you that capital sort of buffer. That’s a long time. It’s a long time.
It was a wild ride because by the time you got, well, so in 2005, we went on a road show trying to tell people what we had learned, and there wasn’t a lot of reception. And in the 2000 at the 2005 conference, it’s kind of wild. So that’s an active part of portfolio trimming and opt and optimization.
Ultimately, we express our views by how we build portfolios, and its within that context that we evaluate what we got right and wrong. in 2024, boosted by productivity growth that is running quite a bit higher than what we saw from 2005 2019. Thats also how we try to keep ourselves honest.
BROWDER: I just gone the riskmanagement committee. The currency devalued by 75 percent and my portfolio, which was above $1 billion, went down 90 percent. And this had an unbelievably positive affect on the value of my portfolio. RITHOLTZ: Wow. I got you $25 million to invest in Russia. This is unbelievable.
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