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Let me say what your compliance wouldn’t allow you to say. RITHOLTZ: So hold the duration risk aside with those two, but just for an investor in treasuries, I know you’ve done the math before. I’m sorry, I’ve never advertised for the podcast other than a couple little experiments. How would you have done?
ADVERTISEMENT) RITHOLTZ: So for those people who may not have seen it, there is a famous documentary, I believe it’s called “The Trader” that follows Paul Tudor Jones around. And so it’s one of these things that math works. ADVERTISEMENT) RITHOLTZ: Let’s talk about betting on natural gas. RITHOLTZ: Right.
So I took it upon myself to go off and took a course in bond math, took another course in derivatives and realized the underlying fundamental concepts were barely, I mean, it wasn’t even high school math in most cases. We didn’t really have to worry about marketing or advertising, didn’t spend time on podcasts or TV.
The advertising model, as we have learned is not aligned with customers’ interests, right? And from a public market, that sounds like it’s a compliance and conflict nightmare. And you know, the only thing math works on recognition by peers, and there’s some prizes. You guys approach it differently.
I even went on advertising calls with the advertising director. But the numbers you can’t argue with, I mean, we all know that the brutal math of investing before costs investors collectively will earn the market return after costs. It was so much fun and I learned so much. Where, where did you grow up?
So it’s, it’s just kind of ironic, and I’ll just throw this out as a bit of an advertisement, but like, we run a portfolio of 10 stocks, a concentrated portfolio, 00:27:41 [Speaker Changed] 10 stocks, 10 00:27:42 [Speaker Changed] Stocks, that’s it. So that’s the math. You have to get compliance.
ADVERTISEMENT) RITHOLTZ: So you’ve been with BlackRock since the financial crisis. Tell us a little bit about what you do on Twitter and how was it getting that through legal and compliance? RIEDER: Well, first of all, anything I tweet goes through legal and compliance before it gets out there, first part. RIEDER: Thanks.
ASNESS: Well, I was striving for uncorrelated, but then the compliance officer in my head is saying sometimes it doesn’t come out to zero all the time. And it’s really not a compliance reason, I hope it’s more of an intellectual honesty reason. My mom was a math teacher so — RITHOLTZ: Okay. ASNESS: Yes.
Um, case anybody that says anything, non-compliant, compliance tracks that also the watch list is just sort of fun. Whereas eTrade they were spending billions on advertising. RITHOLTZ: So great advertising, but expensive advertising. So this is the math that I applied. So think about this, do the math.
Jeffrey Sherman : Well, what it was was, so I, as I said, with applications, there’s many applications of math, and the usually obvious one is physics. Barry Ritholtz : It seems that some people are math people and some people are not. The, the math came easier. And I really hated physics, really. It’s so true.
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