Those Age 65+ Constitute 81% of the Working Age Population Increase In the last 3 Years

Data from BLS, calculation and chart by Mish.

Definitions

  • The Civilian Noninstitutional Population is defined as persons 16 years of age and older residing in the 50 states and the District of Columbia, who are not inmates of institutions (e.g., penal and mental facilities, homes for the aged), and who are not on active duty in the Armed Forces.
  • The participation rate is the percentage of the population that is either working or actively looking for work. The labor force participation rate is calculated as: (Labor Force ÷ Civilian Noninstitutional Population) x 100.
  • Labor Force: Those in the civilian noninstitutional population, age sixteen years or older, who are employed or who are unemployed and seeking employment. 

Civilian Noninstitutional Population in Thousands

Labor Force Participation Rate Trends

Participation Rates, October all years, BLS data, chart by Mish.

I used seasonally-adjusted (SA)  numbers where available, otherwise non-adjusted numbers (NSA).

Labor Force Participation Rates 2019-2022 

Participation Rates 2019 through 2022, October all years, BLS data, chart by Mish.

Change in Participation Rate October 2022 Minus October 2019

  • 16-19: +1.3
  • 20-24: -1.6
  • 25-54: -0.3
  • 55-59: -0.5
  • 60-64: -0.2
  • 65+: -0.6

We can take those numbers and calculate what the labor force would have been for each of the above age groups had the participation rate stayed the same as three years ago (pre-Covid).

Labor Force Change at October 2019 Rate

  • 16-19: 17,107,000 * -0.013 = -222,391
  • 20-24: 20,917,000 * 0.016 = 334,672
  • 25-54: 127,197,000 * 0.003 = 381,591
  • 55-59: 20,697,000 * 0.005 = 103,485
  • 60-64: 21,311,000 * 0.002 = 42,622
  • 65+: 57,307,000 * 0.006 = 343,842

Key Points

  • Had the participation rates not changed from three years ago, the 16-19 labor force  would be fewer by 22,391.
  • Had the participation rates not changed from three years ago, labor force age 20 and older would be 1,176,212 larger. 
  • Note the huge decline in the participation rate from 57.6 percent to 19.8 percent when one turns 65. 

Lost in the Strong Jobs Meme, Full Time Employment is Down 572,000 Since May

Payroll and employment data from the BLS, chart by Mish

Please recall my November 4 post Lost in the Strong Jobs Meme, Full Time Employment is Down 572,000 Since May

Think jobs are strong? Look beneath the surface at huge and growing divergences between jobs and employment.

Payrolls vs Employment Since March 2022

  • Nonfarm Payrolls: +2,452,000
  • Employment Level: +150,000
  • Full Time Employment: -490,000

Employment fell by 328,000 in October.

Full time employment is down 490,000 since March and down by 572,000 since May!

Those 16 to 19 Years Old Have Returned to Work, Other Age Groups Haven’t

This post is a follow-up to my post Those 16 to 19 Years Old Have Returned to Work, Other Age Groups Haven’t

We can now tie some thing together.

What’s Going On?

  1. Boomers are turning 65 or older at a rapid pace as noted in the lead chart.
  2. Many boomers are retiring. Others work part time. 
  3. Many in other age groups are struggling with inflation and have taken a second or third part time job. 

Everything points to part time jobs to fueling the job gains. Meanwhile, the Fed is hell bent on trying to kill jobs to reduce inflation. 

This post originated at MishTalk.Com

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xbizo
xbizo
1 year ago
My grandparents and great grandparents never retired, why should I? It’s only the rich and the boomer generation that has been able to retire. But the big issue is the demographics of living longer. Most people have to work longer because you live longer. The worst thing you can do financially is stop bringing in a regular paycheck.
StukiMoi
StukiMoi
1 year ago
Of course the saps have to keep toiling.
The ever expanding yachts around the world had to be bought with wealth stolen from someone’s so-called pension “savings”, after all. It’s not as if the Fed connected retardos in New York and places, whom the boats belong to, created any of it, after all.
The same dynamic has played out in Latin America for over a decade: Lots of promises about “vested” pensions. Lots of, but ever fewer, connected illiterates “making” money by “managing” the funds.”Managing” being fashionable Newspeak for at best picking random numbers out of a hat, while attempting to sound less illiterate by spouting off mindless jargon sounding pap. Until the money is gone. And then: The saps who were/(some still are) sufficiently dumb and indoctrinated to believe governments and “The System” are some sort of useful institutions, and that “Finance” is in some way not a direct synonym for “theft”…… Are back to toiling again. Instead of retiring.
The Anthropologists will one day catalogue the racket, as one of softening opposition by intertemporal carry: Make promises about alleged future wealth and security to people, while they are still young enough to take up arms against the racketeers (free student loans, mindless nonsense about “investing for retirement….”, romanticised “careers” in the military/police/security services…) Then, once the saps are too old and tired to do pose a real military threat; sweep in for the final bout of looting.With part of the proceeds going to pay off the illusion for the current generation of young…..
nightrite
nightrite
1 year ago
I love being retired at 66! As long as you have a purpose in life and embrace healthy life-style choices, you’ll be good to go.
JackWebb
JackWebb
1 year ago
I’m baffled by the 65+ population increase. Retirements, yes, but higher death rates. Maybe even more baffled by the population declines in 20-24 and 55-59, separated by growth in 25-54. Despite 25-54 being a much larger cohort, 55-59’s decline is the same absolute size, and then 60-64 grows by two-thirds of the 55-59 decine.
This is counterintuitive enough to makes me doubt the accuracy of the population numbers, and therefore the undepinnings of this post. Mish, I don’t doubt your good faith one bit, but I must ask: How confident in those numbers are you? I could be persuaded by a deeper dive into the details, but for the moment this one has an asterisk next to it.
TexasTim65
TexasTim65
1 year ago
Reply to  JackWebb
Why would you be baffled by the decline in the 55-59 age range. That’s exactly where the Boomers end and Gen-X begins (roughly age 56 this year). 4 years ago that age group was entirely boomers. Now it’s half of the start of Gen-X so yeah it makes sense there are far fewer people that age since Gen-X is no where near the size of Boomers on an individual year basis.
65+ should also be growing rapidly too because that’s the heart of the boomers hitting that age. Those dying off at a really old age are the silent generation which again is smaller than boomers so yeah more entering than dying makes total sense.
The slight increase in 60-64 just means the tail end of the boomers generation years had more kids than the middle years. Nothing mysterious about that.
In the giant middle range (25-54) we have several generations (X, Millennial etc). X isn’t large but the younger generations like Z are large so as the first few years of X moves into the 55+ range the newer Z’s are increasing the middle count.
JackWebb
JackWebb
1 year ago
Reply to  TexasTim65
This is all census stuff, and to be honest I haven’t looked at it in depth. By the way, I often chuckle at the labeling of generations. The WW2 generation and the baby boomers make sense to me, but the distinctions between “Generation X” “Millennials” “Generation Y” and “Generation Z” make about as much sense to me as the 31 (or is that 44?) “genders.”

Okay, the generation labels might make more sense, but I think it’s overdone. In any case, if I get more interested maybe I’ll look up the stats. Frankly, this little convo isn’t enough to put me on the hamster wheel, but maybe something else will.

Jack
Jack
1 year ago
Reply to  JackWebb
Demographics is driving the overall numbers of each age group.
People are getting older and the number of people in each age group is different.
there are more baby boomers than GenX. More millennials than GenX and GenZ.
JackWebb
JackWebb
1 year ago
Reply to  Jack
I’d need to see the numbers in detail.
Jack
Jack
1 year ago
Reply to  JackWebb
JackWebb
JackWebb
1 year ago
Reply to  Jack
Now get that in two categories — total population by age cohort, and civilian non-institutional population by age cohort — for each of the following years: 2019, 2020, 2021, 2022. I could not find the complete data.
Mish
Mish
1 year ago
Back
Roughly zero chance of getting lost today
I was at the heavily tracked Emerald Pools Trail in Zion
Lots of good color left but will likely be gone in a few days.
MPO45
MPO45
1 year ago
As I mentioned before about where are all the missing workers, the smartest of the young have embraced the FIRE protocol, financial independence, retire early. The smart silicon valley and other kids earning big bucks take that money and invest it into real estate, stocks, bonds, etc. By the time they hit late 30’s or 40’s they are millionaires and they retire or move overseas to start Youtube, Instagram, Facebook channels….
I found out today that a former co-worker died suddenly at age 57. Didn’t have any known medical issues, was planning on retiring soon and sailing the seas. The huge growth in medical issues like diabetes, cancers, inflammation, infections, etc is also keeping a good portion of the population out of work. Add to it the massive number of boomers that will retire soon and it’s going to get real interesting in the U.S. over the next few years.
There was a news report that some meat packing plant had 30 kids working there. I think that will become far more common than anyone hopes in the near future. Robbing kids of education to work meat packing plants means less engineers, doctors, lawyers later on down the line.
MPO45
MPO45
1 year ago
Reply to  MPO45
I meant to add that Youtube is the great teacher showing people how to retire early, optimize gig jobs, how to start up a new company, how to invest, how to trade, how to virtually do anything. Anyone that doesn’t optimize their learning via YouTube or any of the online resources deserves to be poor and left behind.
There are also things like Shopify and Etsy that enable people to become entrepreneurs far more quickly and efficiently than opening a retail brick and mortar shop. Strange days indeed.
MarkraD
MarkraD
1 year ago
Reply to  MPO45
Mind the logistics to being a successful Youtuber/influencer, only a tiny fraction of them succeed, they separate the wheat from the chaff, the best and brightest are the most successful.
One channel “Veritasium” is hosted by a young physics professor (look it up, great content, very interesting)
There are countless video’s on any given topic, but the successful one’s are usually highly educated in their particular field.
You can also look up any problem you might have with your car, there are countless mechanics that have tried to successfully run Youtube channels, but where there are so many I’ve seen more than a few die off.
One of the most promising internet education models is Khan Academy, you could literally attain a college education there, granted, without accreditation.
Which provokes interesting thought on the future of higher education…how valuable is a degree when the information is so easily available online?
Jack
Jack
1 year ago
Reply to  MarkraD
People love their certifications.
Khan Academy will, like everything else, eventually commercialize and offer certifications.
Maybe they will survive on selling adverts and testing services, but continue to have free learning.
QTPie
QTPie
1 year ago
Article headline not surprising given that the population growth of the 65+ group is larger than all other age groups, combined.
It’s disconcerting for the economy to see the participation rate for youngest of the baby boomers having dropped so much. This is somewhat odd given that folks usually retire in their 60s, not 50s.
Zardoz
Zardoz
1 year ago
Reply to  QTPie
They aren’t in their 50s so much anymore… GenX is.
QTPie
QTPie
1 year ago
Reply to  Zardoz
The age range in Mish’s article I am referring to is 55-59. Those are still boomers.
Zardoz
Zardoz
1 year ago
Reply to  QTPie
57 and under is gene
Jack
Jack
1 year ago
Reply to  Zardoz
It is interesting the difference in attitudes between most people aged 56 and 58.
TSSTANLEY
TSSTANLEY
1 year ago
My 85 -year-old father came back to work after retiring or 8 years – Covid took all his activities away. He has always been a hard worker and gets great satisfaction from getting things done. I could retire now, but still enjoy coming to work. Taking an extra day off now and then keeps me from getting burnt out. I will continue to work as long as I still enjoy it.
Jack
Jack
1 year ago
Reply to  TSSTANLEY
Interested hear what work he used to do vs doing today
Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
1 year ago
Apparently when you need to hire to get something done you end up hiring someone who shows up regularly and has some experience.
Zardoz
Zardoz
1 year ago
Reply to  Lisa_Hooker
You just gotta hope they know who they are and where they are when they arrive.
Jack
Jack
1 year ago
Reply to  Zardoz
While trying to fill a position recently, a person showed up on an oxygen machine.
He was in tough shape, struggled to walk, and was apologizing about the hole in his head from recent cancer surgery.
We had to talk very loud to be heard over the machine.
Most other candidates had zero experience and/or little education.
It was for a senior technical role that paid well into 6 figures with a lot of responsibility and pressure.
Very difficult to find good people.
Billy
Billy
1 year ago
I’m a ways from retiring but I’m always talking to people who are. I find it sad how old people get when they retire and they don’t have a plan. If you’ve got a wife at home that’s not used to you being around it’s hard on her for the adjustment too. Communication and planning is key. Coming up with challenges, goals, and shared rewards is a must. If you find yourself watching news more than you exercise each day, you are most likely not stimulating yourself enough.
This is just my opinion from the outside. By the time I retire, Palm Springs will be a ghost town with only half of the population of the boomers.
Zardoz
Zardoz
1 year ago
Reply to  Billy
Angry tv news killed my dad within 6 years of his retiring. Sat around and got fat, was spun up all the time about Nancy Pelosi and various conspiracies like some here. They couldn’t get his blood pressure under control and it killed him. He just didn’t have any kind of purpose outside work.
Billy
Billy
1 year ago
Reply to  Zardoz
Sorry to hear. I think it’s important for us all to never allow politics or religion to divide the ones we love. I feel we should focus on what unites us.
Sioux
Sioux
1 year ago
My daughter is a registered nurse. Worked in ER for many years. But her experience was having people scream at her because she would not give them fentanyl. Or had drunks from car wrecks throw punches at her. Or older people yell at her for not giving them food when she knew they should not have anything until x-ray was done. Hospital HR was the worst–they treated nurses like disposable needles. Then Covid hit. She had two little boys and no child care was available during Covid. So she just quit. Stays home with her boys, does not intend to EVER go back to nursing. If young people stop working, look at their jobs and how they are treated. She plans on getting another degree and working in a different field after her boys get into school full time.
LPCONGAS99
LPCONGAS99
1 year ago
Reply to  Sioux
Working in the ER is not for everybody. And no disrespect intended to you or your daughter is meant………My son is RN , 1 yr on job 1 yr out of school at small city hospital but not in the ER. Hell I highly doubt he is ready for being in the ER at this point in time either
Their is the Admin side of nursing she can go into. Either way she should be easily able to transition to something else in med field but sounds like it just isn’t for her. Not easy to walk away from very good pay and benefits but wish her luck
JackWebb
JackWebb
1 year ago
Reply to  LPCONGAS99
Please thank you son for what he does. He saves lives.
Billy
Billy
1 year ago
Reply to  Sioux
I’ve got a friend who is an orthopedic surgeon. She has her own practice and said she’s been looking for people to work for 2 years now. Always has ads and only 2 people over that time has responded. I’m sure she can find a job where she will be respected and valued and can utilize her knowledge.
Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
1 year ago
Reply to  Sioux
A BA in Medieval French Literature could be a hit with Goldman Sachs.
MPO45
MPO45
1 year ago
Reply to  Sioux
She should become an administrative manager, then she can be the one getting high pay and treating the onsite nurses like disposable needles. If you can beat em, join them and profit handsomely.
JackWebb
JackWebb
1 year ago
Reply to  Sioux
Tell your daughter that you met someone online who doesn’t lie, and whose spouse had open heart surgery a year and a half ago. He walked the halls of that hospital thanking everyone in sight, and makes a point of doing the same thing when he takes that spouse to followup appointments. EVERYONE from the doctors all the way to the receptionists gets thanked just for being there, and told that no matter what their job is, they are saving lives.
Very sorry she has had those bad experiences, I really am. It just blows me away that people would hassle nurses. I understand that pain and drugs can make people crazy, and I’m sure your daughter does too, but it goes beyond that. If it possible, and at the right time, pass along some deep and sincere gratitude for what she surely did for people. She saved lives, and that’s as big a deal as deals get.

p.s.: The nurses in the cardiac care unit loved us, and we loved them.

LPCONGAS99
LPCONGAS99
1 year ago
Reply to  JackWebb
God Bless you sir
klausmkl
klausmkl
1 year ago
I am hoping more 65 plus folks go back to work. We have enough folks retired and really need no more. The Retirement bus is full, we need to throw some folks off, I have 23 years seniority on the bus. Some newbies will be thrown off soon by the tyrant called INFLATION.
TexasTim65
TexasTim65
1 year ago
Reply to  klausmkl
I think most of us are selfishly hoping that those now hopping on the bus are going to push the oldest off…
HippyDippy
HippyDippy
1 year ago
Reply to  klausmkl
Retirement is really some recent fad. My great-grandfather farmed until he was 90 years old. Wheat farm in Kansas. Hardly easy work. Died at 92. Work gives our life meaning, it’s how we bring our purpose into fruition. The real problem is that these jobs aren’t fulfilling. Everyone’s working to fulfill somebody else’s dream instead. And they’re not appreciated either. Hard times will bring these people out into the workplace, but their dissatisfaction that is being telegraphed far and wide on the internet doesn’t mean the large firms are going to have them. I imagine that they’ll be creating their own businesses. Not a huge percentage of them, but it doesn’t take a huge percentage to make a difference.
LPCONGAS99
LPCONGAS99
1 year ago
Reply to  HippyDippy
Worked a wheat farm till 90? You know they just don’t make to many men like that anymore ……..Must have been a hell of a man…..Hell I play weekend warrior and on Sunday morning I am reaching for the advil and complaining for the next 2 days while at my desk job lol.
I do agree on retirement being over rated and can be unhealthy if you do not stay part time physically and mentally active to keep sharp.
HippyDippy
HippyDippy
1 year ago
Reply to  LPCONGAS99
He was a lot tougher than me, that’s for sure! Sunday and nap time get along real well in my house.
Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
1 year ago
Reply to  HippyDippy
Retirement is the earliest stage of death.
Hey Klausmkl! Get off my lawn!
jiminy
jiminy
1 year ago
Reply to  Lisa_Hooker
“those not busy being born are busy dying”= Bob
Jack
Jack
1 year ago
Reply to  jiminy
Assume Bob is using term “born” as a euphemism for learning and experiencing.
Rbm
Rbm
1 year ago
Reply to  HippyDippy
My observation and opinion here. Seems to me most people miss their true calling whatever it may be and therefore are not truly happy.
HippyDippy
HippyDippy
1 year ago
Reply to  Rbm
Totally agree. Our culture promotes narcissism so much that most people don’t even realize they have a true calling anymore. Which is certainly going to negatively affect the percentage of those who will start up their own business.
JackWebb
JackWebb
1 year ago
Reply to  HippyDippy
People who have a “true calling” are lucky and rare. Most people just fall into their occupation.
HippyDippy
HippyDippy
1 year ago
Reply to  JackWebb
This is true, but that’s still a choice on their part. I’ve found I can find pretty much anything I seek. The real problem is that a lot of things don’t look so shiny up close!
CoachSteve
CoachSteve
1 year ago
Reply to  HippyDippy
Excellent recount of your great-grandfather! Thanks! As a Boomer myself and only on my 76th year, I do not ever plan to retire in the generally known sense of the word until my own first day of eternity. I can say I work when I want to, but my work is so fulfilling, it is hard to stop as I feel the Lord is making my time with people a blessing in so many lives…As a consultant earning my own paycheck from the 1970s and discovering business coaching in the 1990s to this day, it is so fulfilling to help someone start and/or grow their business…or help someone get into business coaching (or consulting) themselves. The world needs the independent skillsets of both Boomers and non-Boomers however. And lots of ’em! Businesses need coaches with integrity and a proven system and frameworks… because of the great economic earthquake that is starting to hit and will only get worse in the months just ahead.

As a new subscriber to Mish Talk, this kind of potporii of current economic news is desperately needed. My favorite takeaway from this issue? Get out and stay out of debt! Mish Talk does remind me of the popular contrarian financial newsletter Wolf Street! Very cool!

Jack
Jack
1 year ago
Reply to  CoachSteve
Never go into debt into the first place. It is a shackle.
Thus is one thing early Christians had right (and Muslims still practice) – no debt.
All money lending was considered a shady practice associated with greed.
astroboy
astroboy
1 year ago
Reply to  HippyDippy
You work to pay the bills, not to get a sense of fulfillment. I learned that the hard way. A few people get lucky, or make their own luck, and do work that means something to them. I think a big problem is management in most cases treats people like disposable parts in a big machine. At my last job I had *13-17* meetings per week, all 30-90 minutes long. I quickly concluded that my primary purpose was to only justify the paychecks of the many ‘bosses’ I answered to. Ironically, my last meeting was called was to tell us proles that we were falling behind. (We were not, not at all). The response was that it was hard to do 40+ hours of difficult work per week in the 25 hours we weren’t corralled into idiotic meetings. That went over well. Anyway, the minute I’m financially able I’ll quit working and not even bother to clean out my desk. Too bad, but that’s how it is.
jiminy
jiminy
1 year ago
Reply to  astroboy
99% of people hate work but mouth platitudes like “I love my job”. The people who can’t stop working either don’t know anything else to do or need the money. Maybe I’ll write a book about the great lies, “the army will make a man out of you” is yet another lie that is often parroted. If you can’t find something more interesting than work, you have issues.
HippyDippy
HippyDippy
1 year ago
Reply to  astroboy
The problem isn’t my naivete, it’s yours. You are letting others define work for you, and are now just praying for luck to get you out of the mess you’re in. Problem is, your mindset is the real problem. With the exception of the first boss I had after graduating college in 1997, every single job I had was a nightmare. I worked for others who did not appreciate my talents at all. But when you find what you’re built to do, it is no longer work. It’s play.
JackWebb
JackWebb
1 year ago
Reply to  HippyDippy
I have mixed feelings about this. Yes, if you love your work, that’s great. It’s even great if you love enough of your work to be able to tolerate the rest. But I often think there’s overemphasis on work as personal quest. Among other things, it brands as failures people who aren’t failures at all. They feed themselves and their families even if they don’t like their job. That’s great, too. I’ve told that a couple of times to someone(s) who have landed in a job they don’t like, with no realistic prospects of change — and no real idea of what they’d want anyway.
People don’t have to be enthralled. They don’t have to be passionate about work. It’s perfectly legitimate to merely tolerate work as a necessity, and to save your passions and interests for other pursuits. When did it become de rigeur to think that one’s occupation has to embody one’s dreams and personal identity? This realization hit me one evening about 25 years ago, when I was still working. I was at a cocktail party and the first words out of my mouth on meeting someone was, “What do you do?”

It’s a way of establishing a pecking order. I thought about it, and changed my thinking.

HippyDippy
HippyDippy
1 year ago
Reply to  JackWebb
There is a lot of truth to what you are saying, one doesn’t have to make work part of your “vision” or whatever the new age dream but never take action folks talk about. However, if your job is taking up 60-80 hours a week of your time, and I have worked those hours for many a year, whatever you’re working for better be worth it. But I also think it’s a sad life where one can’t find a way to combine their passions with a paycheck. I don’t even work anymore this way. But I do play a lot of hours every week. It’s probably an ideal for many, and not a reality unfortunately. I’ve tried to live my life in such a way that the old biblical trilogy of mind, body, and spirit, are all considered. If you can get all of those ducks in a row, you’ll never have to work a day in your life again. For instance, Mish may put out a lot of content; but I bet he doesn’t really consider it work.
Mish
Mish
1 year ago
I have a morning hike planned. Will look at retail sales this afternoon.
Mish
PreCambrian
PreCambrian
1 year ago
Reply to  Mish
Have a great hike. Take some good photos.
TexasTim65
TexasTim65
1 year ago
Reply to  Mish
Hopefully you don’t get lost again and have to spend the night in the wilderness!
HippyDippy
HippyDippy
1 year ago
Reply to  Mish
And keep an eye on the trail markers! I’ve lost sight of them myself and it’s just so embarrassing.
Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab
1 year ago
Reply to  Mish
Being ‘retired,’ I am living vicariously through Mish’s hiking exploits… Have we checked the weather? Charged our sat phone? Attached GoPro to head? Packed emergency rations? First Aid kit? Extra boots? Insulated sleeping bag?
Meanwhile I am looking forward to the retail report. I bet discount stores will do well.
MPO45
MPO45
1 year ago
Reply to  Mish
If you get lost again, I think we need to take you to the doc.

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