President Biden, the UN, and the Climate Lobby Seek to Spread More Fossil Fuel Misery

Please consider these COP 27 Closing Statements by the Secretary-General.

  • COP27 took place not far from Mount Sinai, a site that is central to many faiths and to the story of Moses, or Musa. It’s fitting. Climate chaos is a crisis of biblical proportions
  • Instead of a burning bush, we face a burning planet.  
  • Justice for those on the frontlines who did so little to cause the crisis – including the victims of the recent floods in Pakistan that inundated one-third of the country.   
  • I welcome the decision to establish a loss and damage fund and to operationalize it in the coming period. 
  • But let’s be clear. Our planet is still in the emergency room. 
  • Unlike the stories from the Sinai peninsula, we cannot wait for a miracle from a mountaintop.  
  • We can and must win this battle for our lives.  

Team Biden in Action

On November 12, president Biden’s climate ambassador, John Kerry, made this statement:

It’s a well-known fact that the United States and many other countries will not establish…some sort of legal structure that is tied to compensation or liability. That’s just not happening.

Guess What Happened

In case you are wondering about the Secretary-General’s statement regarding a loss and damage fund, John Kerry signed up for it at the conference.

Please note Biden Signs Up for Climate Reparations

The use of climate policy to soak Americans keeps getting worse, and the United Nation’s climate conference in Egypt ended this weekend with agreement on a new fund to pay reparations to poor countries. Welcome to the latest climate shakedown.

Poor countries have long sought to force wealthy countries to pay for the “loss and damage” they suffer from natural disasters that are supposedly climate-related. This is separate from the $100 billion a year that rich countries have promised to help poor countries reduce emissions and adapt to climate change.

Wealthy countries will now set up a fund to cover climate damage for the least developed countries—i.e., not China or middle-income nations. This will be financed from “a broad donor base” and “mosaic of solutions,” such as international development banks and taxes on aviation, shipping and fossil fuels.

In return for climate reparations, Mr. Kerry tried to force an agreement to phase down “unabated” fossil fuels. Low-income countries understandably refused since doing so would consign their citizens to poverty. The Biden climate agenda has increased energy prices in the U.S., and the climate lobby doesn’t mind if this misery spreads around the world.

Sketchy Details

Details aren’t just sketchy, they’re nonexistent. Amusingly Biden promises no new liabilities for the US. 

Somehow this is more magic money from somewhere and no one has to pay a dime. 

This is why there are no details now. The magic will be flushed out later after people have long forgotten the promise that it won’t cost anything. 

A Comment on the Hypocrisy 

https://twitter.com/LynneMcCarthy/status/1594226829673611264

Meanwhile, the WSJ notes that China emits two-thirds more CO2 than Europe and the U.S. combined. Coal accounts for 60% of China’s power generation, and more new coal plants are set for approval through 2025 than the entire existing U.S. fleet. China says it needs more coal power for energy security and, unlike Europe and the U.S., it won’t commit climate suicide.

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Billy
Billy
1 year ago
I find that Global warming or Climate Change is the number one believed conspiracy theory.
oee
oee
1 year ago
It is not fearmongering. The Missippi River is dry so there will be costs to shipping. The MS river is one of the world’s most important waterways. Also, you have hurrine damage in SW Florida which wiped out business and will raise insurance costs for everyone if FLA is you can find it.
Also, the crab fisheries have collpased in Alaska.
The truth is out there. Damage is being done.
worleyeoe
worleyeoe
1 year ago
Reply to  oee
We’re in a three-peat La Nina, a very rare event. This is what’s causing the very recent, multi-year drought conditions that’s drying up the MS river et al. Now, I totally accept that MMGCC is happening and is real. But, La Nina means cooling of the equatorial waters in the eastern Pacific. I propose that science also shows us that the last three solar cycles are winding down towards a minimum. The current cycle 25 will tell us in about two years if we’ve reached / reaching the bottom or not. The scary thing is that if sunspots start to ramp back up in about 10 years, then we’re in for a nasty middle of the century. Everyone is yammering about lower birth rates. I say BS! We need the planet’s population to go into a long gradual decline.
alexwest
alexwest
1 year ago
Meanwhile, the WSJ notes that China emits two-thirds more CO2 than Europe and the U.S. combined.
—–
do we need to read this BS here?
ppl of china is twice of USA and Europe combined!
prumbly
prumbly
1 year ago
Reply to  alexwest
Plus most of the stuff used by US and Europe is manufactured in China. The US and EU has simply exported much of its CO2 production to China.
alexwest
alexwest
1 year ago
Reply to  prumbly
very good point.
Billy
Billy
1 year ago
Reply to  alexwest
Proof that people don’t really care about the environment when it comes to costing them more money.
8dots
8dots
1 year ago
In Japan rates up to 3Y are negative. Between 3Y and 10Y they rise moderately. From 10Y to 40Y gravity with US is pulling it up sharply up, mostly between the 10Y and 15Y. It look like a cliff. In US all rates between 3M and 1Y are sharply up, because the German front end is up. US 10Y minus 3Y is minus (-)0.72, the max. Japan long duration might invert. The 40Y will be under the 30Y, before going under 20Y, while the front end will popup when Kuroda will be snorkeling in Sharm El Sheich, looking at the most beautiful fish in the world. It used to be an Israeli resort town until they left.
Christoball
Christoball
1 year ago
Cecil B Demille The Golden Calf
Jojo
Jojo
1 year ago
I fail to see how any ‘loss and damage” payments are going to mitigate climate damage. For example, would such payments have stopped the massive flooding that Pakistan recently suffered from? The answer is no.
Fining 1st world countries for supposed damage to the climate that are our fault doesn’t solve any underlying problems and therefore is the wrong approach.
Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab
1 year ago
Reply to  Jojo
Loss and damage payments are not intended to mitigate climate damage, but to penalize wealthy nations and pay for loss and damage suffered by poor nations. The fundamental rule applies: when you tax something you generally get less of it, and when you subsidize something, you get more it. There were be more, and bigger claims for damage from global climate change events….
BDR45
BDR45
1 year ago
Reply to  Captain Ahab
correction: “penalize the taxpayers of wealthy nations” No sweat off the back of the global elites.
8dots
8dots
1 year ago
If TY move lower to 105/95, before 83/85 it means that US 10Y will move higher. Currently gravity pulled the US10Y below US1Y.
When kuroda will be out, since madam ECB cont to raise rates moderately, the spread between all those 3 central banks will shrink. All three will be able to raise rates in unison, in stepping stones. JP will be able to raise rates > the rate of inflation. It’s not a conspiracy theory or an evil secret engineering plan. Look at your charts.
Currently raising rates to 6%-7% if futile.
Salmo Trutta
Salmo Trutta
1 year ago
Reply to  8dots
See Dr. Dan Thornton. “Money Supply and Inflation: Where’s the
Proof?” WSJ July 21, 2022

Link: Daniel L. Thornton, Vice President and
Economic Adviser: Research Division, Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis, Working
Paper Series:

“Monetary
Policy: Why Money Matters and Interest Rates Don’t”

Thornton:
“the interest rate is the price of credit, not the price of money”

“Today “monetary policy” should be more aptly
named “interest rate policy” because policymakers pay virtually no attention to
money.”

8dots
8dots
1 year ago
Reply to  Salmo Trutta
M2 is down in a sucking sound since since NAFTA, it will rise. Zero rates are good for buybacks and executive perks. Moderate rates Provide money to small businesses, especially to businesses that innovate. Moderate rates protect them from the sharks. Sequoia vc invested in Sam Beckman Fried, because his promised 15%/y is higher than zero. Madoff also promise 15%/y. Michael Milken 15% was good enough for innovations
Salmo Trutta
Salmo Trutta
1 year ago
Reply to  8dots
M2 is mud pie.
Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab
1 year ago
Reply to  8dots
After all these years of negative/zero rates, do you seriously think Japan can raise rates to 6-7% without imploding?
Mary
Mary
1 year ago
COP27 took place not far from Mount Sinai, a site that is central to many faiths and to the story of Moses, or Musa. It’s fitting.
The fervor, the pearl clutching, I wonder if any in the audience swooned. I still pine for the old days when we raved about the new museum exhibit of Piltdown Man and declared we had found the missing link. Science completed, now all go home there is nothing more to see here
Salmo Trutta
Salmo Trutta
1 year ago
We live in a predatory society. A conspiracy is “a secret plan by a group to do something unlawful or harmful”. That explains the American Bankers Association. To wit:
“I know of no model that shows a transmission from bank
reserves to inflation” – DONALD KOHN – former Vice Chairman of the Board
of Governors of the Federal Reserve System

“Reserves don’t even factor into my model, that’s not what
causes inflation and not how the Fed stimulates the economy. It’s a side
effect.” – LAURENCE MEYER –
a Federal Reserve System governor
from June 1996 to January 2002
The DIDMCA of March 31st 1980 is prima facie evidence. It
created the S&L crisis. Like the old, thrift-school, now forgotten, saw
goes: “Disintermediation is made in Washington” See: Barron’s: “One Crunch Too
Many”, May 22, 1978

There have been 12 boom/busts in real-estate since WWII
(along with 12 recessions). These BuB originally thought the S&L crisis was
a capital crunch. He has now recanted.

Bernanke, Ben S., and Cara S. Lown (1991). “The Credit
Crunch,” Brookings Papers on Economic Activity, 1991:2, pp. 205-39.

His ignorance (not knowing a credit from a debit), produced
FOMC schizophrenia: Do I stop because inflation is increasing? Or do I go
because R-gDp is falling?

“Matthew O’Brien of the “Washington Post” undertaking a
simple yet illuminating word count in a blog post for the Brussels-based
Bruegel think tank. He found that, in the run-up to the Lehman collapse, the
mentions of “inflation” in the transcripts vastly outnumbered those for
“systemic risks/crises”: 468 versus 35 at the June 2008 FOMC meeting and 322
versus 19 at the August meeting. Even more notable: “At the September 16, 2008
meeting [that is the day after Lehman failed] there were 129 mentions of
inflation…and only 4 of systemic risks/crisis”.

Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab
1 year ago
Reply to  Salmo Trutta
“…There have been 12 boom/busts in real-estate since WWII
(along with 12 recessions)….”
From 1945 to 2022 is 77 years. Divided by 12, is 6.4 years per cycle on average. BTW, a lot of those cycles are ‘related’ to oil prices–not necessarily causal.
Schumpeter and others identify the following cycles (wikipedia-we know all):
  • The Kitchin inventory cycle of 3 to 5 years (after Joseph Kitchin)
  • The Juglar fixed-investment cycle of 7 to 11 years (often identified as “the” business cycle). A range of periods rather than one fixed
    period is needed to capture business cycle fluctuations, which may be
    done by using a random or irregular source as in an econometric or
    statistical framework.
  • The Kuznets infrastructural investment cycle of 15 to 25 years (after Simon Kuznets – also called “building cycle”)
  • The Kondratiev wave or long technological cycle of 45 to 60 years (after the Soviet economist Nikolai Kondratiev)
Perhaps of more interest to you: ‘… simple compound interest mandates the cycling of monetary systems… Dimitry Orlov
Salmo Trutta
Salmo Trutta
1 year ago
Reply to  Captain Ahab
The NBFIs are the DFI’s customers. The elimination of Reg. Q Ceilings flies in the face of this truism. It was true that MMFs impacted the NBFIs, but high interest rates were due to a faulty FED policy prescription, i.e., the FED FUNDS BRACKET RACKET.
Salmo Trutta
Salmo Trutta
1 year ago
Reply to  Captain Ahab

“As any unbiased banker should know, all the money
taken in by the money funds goes right back into the banks, in the form of CDs
or bankers acceptances or other money market instruments; there is no net loss
of deposits to the banking system. Complete deregulation of interest rates
would simply allow a further escalation of rates by the banks, all of which
compete against each other for the same total of deposits.”

Written by Louis Stone whom the movie “Wall
Street” was dedicated to – Vice President Shearson/American Express

Salmo Trutta
Salmo Trutta
1 year ago
Reply to  Captain Ahab
re: “There are numerous sources of business cycle movements such as rapid and significant changes in the price of oil or variation in consumer sentiment that affects overall spending in the macroeconomy and thus investment and firms’ profits. Usually, such sources are unpredictable in advance and can be viewed as random “shocks” to the cyclical pattern, as happened during the 2007–2008 financial crises or the COVID-19 pandemic.”
2007-2008 was no “random shock”. Bankrupt-u-Bernanke drained legal reserves for 29 contiguous months, turning safe assets into impaired assets, i.e., it was the greatest contraction in money flows since the GD.
Salmo Trutta
Salmo Trutta
1 year ago
Reply to  Captain Ahab

The FED controls
monetary flows, the volume and velocity of money. Alan Blinder is wrong about
oil (supply shocks).

Thus
my prediction for the bottom in oil was:

“Lags
are constants but “K” is not. K is the reciprocal of Vt. The bottom isn’t Dec.
but Jan. (like last year)”
Sep 24, 2015. 11:56 AM

Prices
troughed in Jan this year as long-term money flows fell by 80 percent from
1/2013 to 1/2016. Oil fell by 70 percent during the same period.
8dots
8dots
1 year ago
In Apr 2023 Kuroda will snorkel underwater in Sharm El Sheich
strataland
strataland
1 year ago
Never mind that over 50 times more people die each year from cold than from heat.
Jojo
Jojo
1 year ago
Reply to  strataland
We need more blankets for the cold and shivering people!
Webej
Webej
1 year ago
Three mitigating factors:
  • The funding is not clear, which means nobody will be pitching any money, waiting for others to throw the first dollars (Dollars?)
  • The losses are very difficult to establish, and will be good for years of wrangling
  • The attribution will be be the subject of decades of scientific discussion: Although it is possible to say something about the likelihood of climatic parameters and possible shifts in them, probability statistics are impossible to prove for concrete events.
Salmo Trutta
Salmo Trutta
1 year ago
Reply to  Webej

“All analysis is a model” – Nobel Laureate in Economics Dr. Ken
Arrow.

My “unified theory” is based upon American, Yale Professor Irving Fisher –
1920 2nd edition: “The Purchasing Power of Money”:

“If the principles here advocated are correct, the purchasing power of money
— or its reciprocal, the level of prices — depends exclusively on five definite
factors:

…“In my opinion, the branch of economics which treats of these five
regulators of purchasing power ought to be recognized and ultimately will be recognized
as an EXACT SCIENCE, capable of precise formulation, demonstration, and
statistical verification.”

Scientific
evidence “is
proof, which serves to either support or counter a scientific theory or
hypothesis. Such evidence is expected to be empirical evidence and in
accordance with scientific method” – Wikipedia

Scientific method is “a method or procedure…consisting in
systematic observation, measurement, and experiment, and the formulation,
testing, and modification of hypotheses”

Both Shadow Stats and Divisia Monetary Aggregates gets this right:
Benchmark Commentary No. 1459 (shadowstats.com)
Chartsinside_big.gif (1296×653) (centerforfinancialstability.org)
That’s why the price of oil is declining.
8dots
8dots
1 year ago
Change is good : SCO built a wall to replace the dollar. Change is good : the wind and sun will replace coal and oil. Moderation is better than radical changes. Biden & Xi met for 3 hours to moderate the tension between the two great nations. // TY was stopped by a support
line coming from 1987 to Jan 2000 low. The trend is down, the trend is strong. // When the Fed, the ECB and the BOJ will cooperate and coordinate their movements, when gravity between them will be low, JP without much friction will be able to raise rates to 6%-8% to fight inflation.
Change is good. The Fed is no longer stand a alone mountain. Central banks in unison will raise rates, moderating the spread between them. The real rates in US, EU and Japan will be above the CPI.
Change is good : from negative rates to 6%-8%.
Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab
1 year ago
Reply to  8dots
So engineering a global crisis is a good idea? Do you not understand the inherent danger in central banks colluding and what this will do to the US dollar? More importantly, exactly where does Klaus Schwab fit into the grand scheme?
8dots
8dots
1 year ago
Reply to  8dots
DXY failed to breach the 115.43/126.02 trading range. DXY is hovering above Jan 1974 fractal zone : 109.50/ 105.90. // Currently DX is trying to reach/ breach the daily trading range : 107.67/110.78 from below. It might move up in a sling shot. If fail it will cont lower.
Dave
Dave
1 year ago
Should I write an apology letter to Pakistan because I made their floods happen?
Salmo Trutta
Salmo Trutta
1 year ago
Reply to  Dave
The Russians caused the Fukushima nuclear disaster, with gravitational waves – which are much more powerful than nuclear bombs.
Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab
1 year ago
Reply to  Salmo Trutta
You have data to back this up?
The generally accepted view is “The accident was triggered by the Tōhoku earthquake and tsunami, which occurred in the Pacific Ocean about 72 kilometres (45 mi) east of the Japanese mainland at 14:46 JST on Friday, 11 March 2011”
Maximus_Minimus
Maximus_Minimus
1 year ago
“Justice for those on the frontlines who did so little to cause the crisis – including the victims of the recent floods in Pakistan that inundated one-third of the country.”
Pakistan is $hithole with no population control, and they are the victims? Yes, the victim of her own population’s backwardness.
That the so called climate conference doesn’t even mention that fact, is cause enough to doubt this will go anywhere.
Everything else about fouling up of the ecosystem, and that includes climate, is correct. Only problem is that the idiots are in charge of addressing the problem.
RonJ
RonJ
1 year ago
“In case you are wondering about the Secretary-General’s statement
regarding a loss and damage fund, John Kerry signed up for it at the
conference.”
So Kerry is going to deposit his personal fortune into the loss and damage fund? Oh, that’s right, he is going to deposit other people’s money. He will hang on to his fortune. How generous of him. How much money does the middle class have, to pay for all of this generosity?
billybobjr
billybobjr
1 year ago
The New King of England has the servants put the toothpaste on his brush everyday and the Royals are exempt
from the taxes the people are required to pay . That is all you need to know about how out of touch these people are.
Climate change formerly known as global warming and before that global cooling is just the
repackaged narrative to screw the average people out of money and create a crisis to divide people.
These people at that conference intend to keep living the way they are spewing many thousands
of times the carbon that the average person does . They could have had the conference via Virtual
and saved all that jet fuel and fossil fuels that were burnt but then again this is not what that is about .
It is about control and there are a big percentage of people who actually believe it and become activist
for it .
Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
1 year ago
Reply to  billybobjr
Touring Karnak, Luxor and the Great Pyramids on a virtual screen is just not the same as being there.
Being an Elite has its perks.
xbizo
xbizo
1 year ago
We are quite privileged to think that 100 year droughts don’t happen or that we can prevent them. History says different. We should be rolling out De-sal and nuclear. De-sal to address the coming problems. Nuclear as a hedge against carbon being the cause.
MarkraD
MarkraD
1 year ago
Reply to  xbizo
Completely agree, we obviously need more potable water, especially for agriculture where aquifers are drying up.
We also need cheaper energy, not just nukes though.
It’s a ridiculous waste of time to debate whether or not climate change is real, or what the cause is when we know there’s a problem that can be addressed and both sides will agree.
.
Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab
1 year ago
Reply to  MarkraD
What if a 3 degree Celcius increase in temperature increases evaporation from the seas, with a corresponding increase in rainfall–something like the rains that occurred millions of years ago, when the planet was thriving on high levels of CO2?
RonJ
RonJ
1 year ago
“We can and must win this battle for our lives.”
It’s a propaganda campaign that Goebbels would be proud of.
“800 private jets flew to Egypt to tell you to ride your bike to work.”
The elitists want us to believe we are all in this together.
xbizo
xbizo
1 year ago
Reply to  RonJ
Like abortion is used to drive votes for the left. The federal issue could have been solved 2-3 times when the Dems had control in the past. They need and want abortion to be an ongoing issue to rally their base. We have a very smart and deliberate political class. Dems are a little smarter though.
Maximus_Minimus
Maximus_Minimus
1 year ago
Reply to  RonJ
Yes, the apparent controversy is due to the fact that the idiots have taken up the cause.
That doesn’t translate that the cause doesn’t exist, only that it is doomed with these cretins in charge.
MarkraD
MarkraD
1 year ago
I strongly disagree with funding countries for climate disasters, that’s akin to taking responsibility to buy LED’s for countries that stocked incandescent lights.
As technology changes we can’t be held to account for consequences of older technology, 3rd world countries are going to be lining up for free money if we open that door.
.
Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab
1 year ago
Reply to  MarkraD
Next up, climate reparations.
Jojo
Jojo
1 year ago
Reply to  Captain Ahab
40 acres and a mule for everyone impacted by climate change!
Forty Acres And A Mule
Oscar Brown, Jr.
RonJ
RonJ
1 year ago
It’s all about control of the people. Climate is their excuse to impose global socialism. The G20 discussed vaccine passports for permission of international travel, under the WHO. This to be tied into a digital ID. What is your social credit score? Don’t leave home without it.
RonJ
RonJ
1 year ago
“Instead of a burning bush, we face a burning planet.”
I guess they didn’t see the story about the huge snowfall in Buffalo.
MarkraD
MarkraD
1 year ago
Reply to  RonJ
This proves, beyond question, that climate change isn’t happening.
RonJ
RonJ
1 year ago
Reply to  MarkraD
It shows that children still grow up knowing what snow is. Climate has never been static. The U.S. was hot in the 1930’s, then got colder into the 1970’s. Climate alarmists want people to think that climate only goes in one direction.
MarkraD
MarkraD
1 year ago
Reply to  RonJ
Looks like you’re sold on the idea that increased temps for the last 150 years is natural, not CO related.
We’ll get nowhere if I debate that, just wanted to point out that a single snow storm does not disprove global warming
IMO, it’s too late to change global warming fast enough to account for agriculture, I think we should be prioritizing agriculture to adapt to climate change.
Where it seems you at least acknowledge temps increasing, seems maybe that should be your priority too.
There were droughts all across the globe this year, that can’t be ignored.
.
RonJ
RonJ
1 year ago
Reply to  MarkraD
“Looks like you’re sold on the idea that increased temps for the last 150 years is natural, not CO related.”
Did you notice that it was hot in the U.S. in the 1930’s, then got colder into the 1970’s? How did carbon dioxide cause that?
California has a drought every year, from April to October. Mulholland built an aqueduct to bring water to L.A., because of it.
New York city is built on the site of glaciers. That could become an issue some day.
Jmurr
Jmurr
1 year ago
Reply to  MarkraD
Temps increase for one reason and one reason alone – solar activity. There is nothing anyone can do about that.
Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab
1 year ago
Reply to  RonJ
“Climate alarmists want people to think that climate only goes in one direction.”
Actually no. That is the great con. Global warming was easy to test as an hypothesis–the global temperature had to go up over time (the infamous hockey stick). But the evidence, despite what we are told, is far from reliable. Climate change on the other hand is virtually ‘proven’ by constructing a faulty hypothesis. Any weather event, mild or not, hot or cold, can be compared to no change from some ‘ideal’ climate. This is so the media can get the simpletons to accept. The true test would be to look at the variance (distribution) of weather over prolonged time. Even then, more 100-year events is proof of change as are fewer 100-year-events. Climate change will always be proven given the weather.
randocalrissian
randocalrissian
1 year ago
If China could onboard nuclear at their preferred rate, yellowcake would already be well over $100/lb. Not that it is a valid excuse, but their coal is probably not a permanent and long-term solution. At least let’s hope they curtail it.
We might as well kick our certain extinction can as far down the road as we can so that only 10,000 years from now when all containment fails and the world is poisoned by nuclear waste, we’ll probably have snuffed our torch by then anyway.
KidHorn
KidHorn
1 year ago
Every bad weather event is blamed on higher levels of greenhouse gasses. Scientifically, higher greenhouse gases should do the opposite. There should be fewer bad weather events since the temperature gradient between the poles and tropics will be less. And the data actually shows this.
The US thinks we’re in charge of the world and we can dictate what everyone has to do. May have been true in say 1990, but it’s clearly not true now. A lot of countries are going to side with the BRICS and shut us out. Most of the world hates us but until recently have been too scared to show it publicly.
Zardoz
Zardoz
1 year ago
Reply to  KidHorn
So when you add energy to a system, it becomes more quiescent? Tell me more about Kooky Klimatology!
KidHorn
KidHorn
1 year ago
Reply to  Zardoz
Why don’t you learn something about thermodynamics or physics before posting nonsense. Did you know the hottest places on earth have little to no weather.
And can you explain to me how greenhouse gasses add energy to a system?
Zardoz
Zardoz
1 year ago
Reply to  KidHorn
I had pegged you as somebody with at least a high school education. Maybe you have the paper, but you don’t have the education. You’re hereby downgraded to GVK, or Garden Variety Kook along with RonJ.
How carbon traps energy:
The relationship between stability and energy:
I fully expect you to tearfully insist that the laws of physics have been stolen by liberals to further their nefarious agenda. Let the darkness flow through you!
KidHorn
KidHorn
1 year ago
Reply to  Zardoz
None of your responses are relevant. Trapping energy doesn’t add energy. It impedes the decrease of energy. And your post about stability has nothing to do with this topic.
Zardoz
Zardoz
1 year ago
Reply to  KidHorn
You are a desperate, clueless idiot, and you have my pity.
KidHorn
KidHorn
1 year ago
Reply to  Zardoz
It’s not my fault you got a useless liberal education. Instead of teaching actual science they taught you made up nonsense about how we’re doomed.
Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab
1 year ago
Reply to  Zardoz
Maybe you can tell me where all that bad carbon came from before it got into fossil fuels?
And what about water vapor? Isn’t that a greenhouse gas, in fact, the major greenhouse gas?
However, the real issue is population growth. This is something people who believe in climate change can easily remedy by a small personal sacrifice.

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