Another Strong Jobs Report? Phooey, and I Can Prove It

Payroll and employment data from the BLS, chart by Mish

Today, the Bureau of Labor Statistics released its Monthly Payroll Report.

Initial Thoughts

  • The discrepancy between jobs and employment continues for the eighth month.
  • Lost in the unemployment and jobs headline noise are huge divergences between jobs and employment dating back to March. 

Payrolls vs Employment Since March 2022

  • Nonfarm Payrolls: +2,692,000
  • Employment Level: +12,000
  • Full Time Employment: -398,000

Employment fell by 138,000 in November.

Full time employment is down 398,000 since March and down by 480,000 since May!

Typical Headlines 

  • The StreetInsider headline says “U.S. job juggernaut rolled on in November; nonfarm payrolls up 263,000”
  • The Wall Street Journal headline says “U.S. Economy Added 263,000 Jobs in November”

Both reports and mainstream in general miss the big picture captured in my lead chart. 

The internal details have been weak for 8 month and I have been talking about the discrepancy for six of them. 

Job Report Details

  • Nonfarm Payroll: +263,000 to 153,548,000 – Establishment Survey
  • Civilian Non-institutional Population: +173,000 to 264,708,000
  • Civilian Labor Force: -186,000 to 164,481,000 – Household Survey
  • Participation Rate: -0.1 to 62.1% – Household Survey
  • Employment: -138,000 to 158,470,000 Household Survey
  • Unemployment: -48,000 to 6,011,000- Household Survey
  • Baseline Unemployment Rate: +0.0 to 3.7% – Household Survey
  • Not in Labor Force: +359,000 to 100,227,000 – Household Survey
  • U-6 unemployment: 10.1 to 6.7% – Household Survey

Revision Details

  • The change in total nonfarm payroll employment for September was revised down by 46,000, from +315,000 to +269,000
  • The change for October was revised up by 23,000, from +261,000 to +284,000. 
  • With these revisions, employment gains in September and October combined were 23,000 lower than previously reported.

Labor Force

Another 186,000 people dropped out of the labor force in November. That’s why the decline in employment of 138,000 did not cause the unemployment rate to rise. 

The number of working-age persons people not in the labor force rose by 359,000 in November and is back over 100 million

If you are not in the labor force, you are not unemployed. 

Change in Nonfarm Payrolls

BLS Month-Over-Month Chart

Manufacturing jobs are still strong, at least as reported. That is unlikely to last given miserable ISM statistics. 

For discussion, please see Manufacturing Has Peaked This Cycle, 8 of 11 ISM Components in Contraction

Part-Time Jobs

The above numbers never total correctly due to the way the BLS makes adjustments. I list them as reported.

In March, the BLS said full-time employment was 132,718,000. Today it says 132,320,00.

This discrepancy has hasted 8 straight months. Everything points to part time jobs to fueling the job gains.

Hours and Wages

  • Average weekly hours of all private employees fell 0.1 hour to 34.4 hours. 
  • Average weekly hours of all private service-providing was flat at 33.4 hours. 
  • Average weekly hours of manufacturers fell 0.2 hour to 40.2 hours.

I expected that decline in manufacturing hours and expect still more coming up. 

Hourly Earnings

Average Hourly Earnings of All Nonfarm Workers rose $0.18 to $32.82. A year ago the average wage was $31.23. That’s a gain of 4.8%.

Average hourly earnings of Production and Supervisory Workers rose $0.19 to $28.10. A year ago the average wage was $26.55. That’s a gain of 5.5%.

Despite the gains, wages have not kept up with inflation. However, Fed Chair Jerome Powell will not be pleased with these strong wage gains. 

Birth Death Model

Starting January 2014, I dropped the Birth/Death Model charts from this report.

The birth-death model pertains to the birth and death of corporations not individuals except by implication. 

For those who follow the numbers, I retain this caution: Do not subtract the reported Birth-Death number from the reported headline number. That approach is statistically invalid.

The model is wrong at economic turning points and is also heavily revised and thus essentially useless.

Alternative Measures of Unemployment

Table A-15 is where one can find a better approximation of what the unemployment rate really is.

The official unemployment rate is 3.7%.

U-6 is much higher at 6.7%. Both numbers would be way higher still, were it not for millions dropping out of the labor force over the past few years.

Some of those dropping out of the labor force retired because they wanted to retire. Some dropped out over Covid fears and never returned. Still others took advantage of a strong stock market and retired early.

The rest is disability fraud, forced retirement (need for Social Security income), and discouraged workers.

Unemployment Rate

Unemployment rate data from the BLS, chart by Mish.

In September, the unemployment rate was a record low 3.5 percent. Today it’s 3.7 percent. 

However, there are 100,227,000 people of working age who are not working that seemingly don’t matter. 

Changing Employment Dynamics

Covid-19 had an enormous impact on the labor force. Some job losses are permanent, millions of other other people now work from home.

Stimulus provided incentives to not work and some of those workers are returning to the labor markets now.

As of January 2022, there were 22 million workers age 60 and over. Millions will retire soon which will put upward pressure on hiring.

Household Survey vs. Payroll Survey

The payroll survey (sometimes called the establishment survey) is the headline jobs number, generally released the first Friday of every month. It is based on employer reporting.

The household survey is a phone survey conducted by the BLS. It measures unemployment and many other factors.

If you work one hour, you are employed. If you don’t have a job and fail to look for one, you are not considered unemployed, rather, you drop out of the labor force.

Looking for job openings on Jooble or Monster or in the want ads does not count as “looking for a job”. You need an actual interview or send out a resume.

These distortions artificially lower the unemployment rate, artificially boost full-time employment, and artificially increase the payroll jobs report every month.

Increasing Divergence

Nonfarm payrolls are a subset of all jobs, but generally the numbers move in the same direction over time.

The Employment (Household Survey) is noisy. However, 8 months is a reasonable time frame for discrepancies to resolve.

Since March of 2022, payrolls are up about 2.7 million but full time employment is down by 398,000.

All of the employment rise (and then some) since March is part-time employment. 

Q&A What’s Going On?

Q: Hey Mish, What’s Going On?
A: People are taking on second part time jobs to make ends meet. But overall employment (the total number of people working is stagnant.

As I have been saying for many months, don’t watch the unemployment rate, watch employment levels.

But hooray! The media reports of a “strong jobs juggernaut” continue unabated.

Expect a Long But Shallow Recession With Minimal Rise in Unemployment

Given hiring pressures and boomer retirements, Expect a Long But Shallow Recession With Minimal Unemployment Rise

The stock market is another issue. For discussion, please see Artificial Wealth vs GDP: Why Earnings and the Stock Market Will Get Crushed

While I expect the unemployment rate will not rise much in this recession, at least compared to the average recession impact, employment is another matter.

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Salmo Trutta
Salmo Trutta
1 year ago

There is no such thing as the “wage-price spiral”; the “price-wage spiral”; or the “cost-push spiral”; in the sense that increases in wages, prices, or costs are causes of inflation.

Unless effective demands (money times transactions’ velocity) are adequate to prevent a cutback in sales, or a diversion of purchasing power to the price raisers, any administered increase in prices will result in less sales, smaller outputs, less employment, lower payrolls and less demand for products—in other words, depression and deflation in due course.

8dots
8dots
1 year ago
China closure is systemic. China built a wall around their factories, shutting them down, guarded by police, to destroy our economy. Recession or not, mfg, mining and constructions jobs are coming back. The shift is not from China to ASEAN countries, but back to USA, including old industries with robots and automation. Minorities and new immigrants will do mfg jobs, earning higher wages, supporting their bros in the service sector.
The losses of high paying jobs in the high tech sector might shift to the crooked healthcare sector, personal care and to the crooked wall street bankers…One programmer is equal to 5-7 cooks, or WMT employees. Layoffs will rectify distortions. The Indians locust are not worth it. This country is fed up with them.
Higher paying jobs in the mfg sector might fill the gap. Falling RE and used cars prices are good for the economy. People are not looking for
a job because they cannot buy a car to drive to work.
Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
1 year ago
Reply to  8dots
People are not looking for a job because they cannot afford the new iPhone the job requires.
alexwest
alexwest
1 year ago
for labor and overall USA economy i would analyze=post info about tax collections.
it is daily and real nominal $$$. no BS phone survey.
in Nov 2022 USA collected less money than in Nov 2021, and it is 1st negative print in 2 years, outside some quirk months around April (tax month)
alexwest
alexwest
1 year ago
The household survey is a phone survey conducted by the BLS. It measures unemployment and many other factors.
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IT IS ‘PHONEY’ survey (pun intended)
it is 21th century, and yet it has been done by PHONE. yeah totally professional!!!
vanderlyn
vanderlyn
1 year ago
amerikans have had decades of workaholic syndrome. i think the plague really changed many folks outlooks on life. it has certainly changed folks old fashioned ideas of commuting into city centers to work in cubicals and ugly offices. i don’t think Mish or Shadow stats or the government wonks have a clue on what’s going on. they printed 50 years worth of money in two years and dropped it from helicopters into everyones accounts from busboys to investment bankers. inflation is raging like nothing we have seen since the late sixties. i think Mish and everyone is missing a very wise form of thinking. knowing you nor me, nor anyone on planet has a clue to how this incredible past few years will pan out. trying to forecast working and living and spending habits on the old ways of pre plague years is a dangerous fools errand. very wise men know what they don’t know and are ok with that. i always like my personal smell test. i know of NOT ONE soul that cannot find a job. i know uneducated 19 and 20 year olds who have multiple job offers. i know many late 20s very schooled, who have the same scenarios. i have countless boomer pals who have ZERO problem with “work or work like activities” for dough. the smell test tells me Mish is wrong. however i always assume i am wrong. so have no problemo. i know that i don’t know. i know mish and jerome powell doesn’t know. the cross currents in the world economy in the macro and micro levels are too wild. i do concur the real estate market is falling down. heard the blackstone funds are ceasing quarterly redemptions. a stampede out of commercial is underway. smells like the 2006 and early 2007 whiff of bear stearns r/e funds wafting a putrid smell of a dying animal. keep up the great work mish. you are fantastic. so please take no offense in my comments. it’s certainly a fun market place. great trading environment for those with lots of dough re mi. glad i sold all my properties off in july.
Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab
1 year ago
Reply to  vanderlyn
I suspect your observation about ‘workaholic…’ is very close to the underlying issue: changing outlooks on life/work–value systems and beliefs.
Trust in government is likely near an all-time low. As confirmation seeps out about the media bias of the last 20 years, Americans will either reject progressive brain-washing, or accept it. Either way, beliefs/values will change.
Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
1 year ago
Reply to  vanderlyn
vanderlyn – I think I understand your capital letter affliction. However, if you would simply omit your end of sentence punctuation you can make your entire comment virtually incomprehensible. Just trying to help.
worleyeoe
worleyeoe
1 year ago

My bad, somewhat off topic. So you can now secure a government backed mortgage in high prices areas for $1M with only 3% ($30K).

Oh, NO! No worries here! This is definitely, absolutely, for sure nothing like the subprime mortgages of the 2000’s that lead to the GR.

There’s NO WAY this can go sideways or cause issues.

Totally legit.
MarkraD
MarkraD
1 year ago
Reply to  worleyeoe
Not even closely as risky.
The ’08 crisis would have been a small recession had it not been for CDO’s.
Banks were intentionally pushing deadbeats into mortgages for the sole purpose of reselling them as “triple A” rated assets.
We might see a similar crisis event via bank manipulation, but it won’t be through mortgages.
We have the removal of Glass-Steagall to thank, it allows banks to originate a loan, then convert it to a derivative and resell the risk to the open market.
.
Salmo Trutta
Salmo Trutta
1 year ago
Reply to  MarkraD
Fisher proved that prices were predictable, that economics was an “exact science”. Dec. 2004’s money #s
weren’t exceeded for 4 years. That is the most contractive money policy since
the Great Depression. That turned safe assets into impaired assets (with securitized assets the first to go).
worleyeoe
worleyeoe
1 year ago
Reply to  MarkraD
We shall see. CDO’s still represent the potential for systemic risk within the mortgage investment industry. The biggest difference between 2008 & 2023 is that Congress has now set a precedent to intervene with rent & mortgage relief. If trillions in homes go underwater in the next two years and we see 5% unemployment, then all bets are off.
Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab
1 year ago
Reply to  MarkraD
More regulation; it is the only way for liberals to survive.
MarkraD
MarkraD
1 year ago
Reply to  Captain Ahab
Well explained and formulated response.
8dots
8dots
1 year ago
TY is up. The 3M might breach the 1Y and the 10Y is down today. The Dow was down 8.3K from Jan peak to the bottom. This rally might be over. The Dow might move to the : 26K area, below Oct 26 2020 low. For fun only.
MPO45
MPO45
1 year ago
I can easily count a dozen people in my extended family that are no longer working, they are all boomers collecting social security and on medicare. I can count a few more non-boomers that are “retired” because they are trust fund babies collecting money and doing/contributing nothing but consuming.
We just finished november and across america about 200,000 boomers retired and that matches this statement:
“Another 186,000 people dropped out of the labor force in November. That’s why the decline in employment of 138,000 did not cause the unemployment rate to rise.”
That drop off in November will repeat in December, January, Feb…. every month from now on until 2030 until we have 40 to 60 million (depending how many die) on social security and medicare. They will contribute little to nothing but demand/consume a great deal of food, energy and healthcare services.
What about young people coming into the labor force? They don’t exist. Each generation has been halving the number of children they have and we are now at the end of the road.
What is a bit bizarre to me is why wages don’t go up…I suspect there will come a time in 2024 or 2025 when wages explode due to the lack of labor or boomers will be forced back into the labor force by cutting social security. We’ll see what happens.
Invest accordingly.
vanderlyn
vanderlyn
1 year ago
Reply to  MPO45
the trust fund folks that just consume, do create value. the cooks and massage therapists and weed dealers……..all have “jobs and work like jobs”.
MarkraD
MarkraD
1 year ago
Reply to  vanderlyn
True, during the ’08 crisis a friend once joked that a drug dealer is more economically beneficial than an investment banker, because the dealer will buy local bling and pay sales tax while the banker invests in foreign countries and hides his money in tax shelters.
Casual_Observer2020
Casual_Observer2020
1 year ago
BofA says hard landing in Q1’23 with 500k layoffs.
Doug78
Doug78
1 year ago
Probability of a recession.
QTPie
QTPie
1 year ago
For now, Mish, I am taking the other side of the argument because the JOLTS is still very high and jobless claims are still very low. This supports the strong employment position.
Also, from an anecdotal perspective… As someone who also does hiring as part of my job and from speaking to people who are hiring in other industries, I can tell you that although it has gotten a tad bit better, it is still extremely difficult to find workers nowadays.
This “we are definitely in a recession already” notion some people have does not hold water, as can be evidenced by both employment and spending figures. I am not saying we won’t get there at some point but we are not there yet IMO.
Tony Bennett
Tony Bennett
1 year ago
Reply to  QTPie
“jobless claims are still very low.”
imo, initial claims has been neutered. In 2020 over 20 million on UE … and many stayed that way due the extra $600 week (and then $300 week) of federal UE benefits on top of State benefits. Once the fedgov hand out ended (1st week of September 2021) is when many chose to look for work. Many were hired end of 2021 and H1 of 2022. But in order to file for UE an applicant must have worked 4 out of 5 prior quarters. Assuming LIFO (last hired first fired) employment … many of these 20 million not eligible to file.
PapaDave
PapaDave
1 year ago
I fail to see how we can have a “strong” jobs report. Everyone who wants a job, pretty much has one. Still see lots of “we are hiring” signs. And more people are retiring every day than are joining the labor force.
The question is “when will we have a weak jobs report” where we lose 500k jobs?
As far as I can see, all these employment reports are not strong or weak. Just meh.
And as Mish says, the economy may slow, but it won’t be with a big loss in jobs.
So; steady as she goes. Slow economic growth. Slow jobs growth. Slow increase in energy use. But not enough supply of energy. Fortunately, the US is one of the few countries in the world where we can afford todays high energy prices.
Tony Bennett
Tony Bennett
1 year ago
Reply to  PapaDave
“Slow increase in energy use. But not enough supply of energy.”
EIA contradicts. Energy production increase year over year (4 week rolling average) … BUT supply is down … due to increased exports.
Yet, gas and diesel prices coming down … hhmm, what could it be …
PapaDave
PapaDave
1 year ago
Reply to  Tony Bennett

You are just looking at the US supply data. Now add in the demand data. Net result is inventories. Inventories have been dropping all year in spite of SPR releases. Meaning demand continues to exceed supply.

Also, don’t forget that the US produces 12 Mbpd and consumes 20 Mbpd.

We still have to import 8 Mbpd.
Tony Bennett
Tony Bennett
1 year ago
Reply to  PapaDave
You slid from “energy” to now referencing “oil”.
Yes, US is a net importer of crude oil … but a net energy (includes oil / gas / coal / other) exporter.
Exporting more + sliding US prices = drop in (US) demand.
PapaDave
PapaDave
1 year ago
Reply to  Tony Bennett
Only because you mentioned gas and diesel.
Here is another look:
Energy consumption of all types just keeps increasing.
8dots
8dots
1 year ago
Since Mar 2022 400K full time employees lost their jobs. One high tech programmer making $200K/Y – $300K/Y is equal to at
least five six workers in the service sector. Quality matter more than quantity.
8dots
8dots
1 year ago
Mish, can u add changes since Feb 2020.
8dots
8dots
1 year ago
Thanks for dissecting the job report.
shamrock
shamrock
1 year ago
The country is at full employment so it’s not shocking at all that all the jobs created are taken by people as a second job, there really are no unemployed people available.
Walkie talkie
Walkie talkie
1 year ago
The mainstream media’s motto is never let facts get in the way of a good story.
Seb
Seb
1 year ago
The disability is real. I’ve seen 3 post Covid patients this week alone who could barely walk into the office. Ignore Covid at your own economic peril.
LPCONGAS99
LPCONGAS99
1 year ago
Reply to  Seb
I believe it. I take it you are a Dr?
What a virus. I guess all viruses effect people differently but this one and its mutations are just not like anything before.
Which makes me believe this virus was made more virulent from a lab and it leaked out
Casual_Observer2020
Casual_Observer2020
1 year ago
Reply to  LPCONGAS99
How do you know its not bc of climate change ? Viruses percolate and mutate even at 1 degree higher averages. I predict by 2026 we will see another pandemic.
Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
1 year ago
Of course it’s not climate change.
Obviously it is Putin’s fault.
KidHorn
KidHorn
1 year ago
Reply to  Seb
Everyone has been exposed to covid at this point, so everyone you see is post covid. The question is did covid cause them to barely be able to walk or was it something else?
Casual_Observer2020
Casual_Observer2020
1 year ago
Reply to  KidHorn
Given 99.9999% of them got it after they got covid, it’s bc of covid. Most people who have post covid syndrome didn’t get vaccinated in time. Even now unvaccinated people keep coming in with repeated covid for their infusions of antibodies but this has side effects that are worse than the vaccine bc you are literally injecting the plasma of 3000 random people into you.
Webej
Webej
1 year ago
Reply to  KidHorn
Yeah. Like were they vaxxed?
Webej
Webej
1 year ago
If you really want to track employment, the proxy you need to track is full-time male employment 25-55 years old.
People have been gaming these numbers since the early 70’s with countless revisions, methodology changes, redefinitions, etc.
KidHorn
KidHorn
1 year ago
Mish,
hasted should be lasted.
I thought this month would be the beginning of more accurate reporting. Since the mid terms are over. But then I remembered, the mid terms are not over. There’s still a Ga runoff.
MarkraD
MarkraD
1 year ago
“However, there are 100,227,000 people of working age who are not working that seemingly don’t matter.”
Maybe I missed something.
Participation is 62% and 17% of Americans are retired, 21% of 332 million should be 70 million.
Also, 26% has a disability, not necessarily unable to work though.
.
Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab
1 year ago
Reply to  MarkraD
The disability would be what? Chronic poor education? Workaphobia? Bailout Expectation Syndrome? Wokeness?
Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
1 year ago
Reply to  Captain Ahab
All good, but I like “Wokeness” the best.
PreCambrian
PreCambrian
1 year ago
If everyone drops out of the labor force then we would have 0% unemployment, unfortunately we would produce 0% also. If there are 100,000,000 people not in the labor force (not working) then their needs are being met by either someone who is working or by savings. This huge drop in the labor force puts increasing burdens on the ones remaining in the labor force.
Tony Bennett
Tony Bennett
1 year ago
“Another Strong Jobs Report? Phooey”
30 year bond concurs.
dbannist
dbannist
1 year ago
How do they determine how many people are looking for work? Do they look at those who apply for unemployment? What about those who don’t file for that or are ineligible for it but still want work?

I’d love to know the answer to those questions.

Mish
Mish
1 year ago
Reply to  dbannist
They ask!
Very detailed questions. The goal is to weed out anyone who does not meet the strict definition of unemployed. Remember, this is a phone survey.
OUdaveguy
OUdaveguy
1 year ago
Reply to  Mish
This just seems to be an incredibly disingenuous way to producing important data. I wonder about the instructions they are given before dialing, and how the questions may be leading the respondent to give the answer they want to produce. This is just another form of economic hedonics.
vanderlyn
vanderlyn
1 year ago
Reply to  OUdaveguy
it’s a hooey analysis of unemployed, yes. i received the calls. and also got the department of commerce stuff asking me about my little dumb businesses over the decades. i always bull manured them.
Maximus_Minimus
Maximus_Minimus
1 year ago
Reply to  Mish
Phone survey, eh? No wonder the statistics are like it was still the 1990-ties.
Let say someone is home waiting for a response to a job application. Phone answered.
Someone busy working. Phone unanswered.
Siliconguy
Siliconguy
1 year ago
I don’t answer the phone unless I know who it is, or it is at least a local number AND I’m expecting a call.
Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
1 year ago
Reply to  Mish
Is the first question – “Are you a Democrat or a Republican?”
Sorry, bad taste, but I just couldn’t resist.
Tony Bennett
Tony Bennett
1 year ago
Reply to  dbannist

Persons are classified as unemployed if they do not have a job, have actively looked for work in the prior 4 weeks, and are currently available for work. Persons who were not working and were waiting to be recalled to a job from which they had been temporarily laid off are also included as unemployed. Receiving benefits from the Unemployment Insurance (UI) program has no bearing on whether a person is classified as unemployed.

The unemployment rate represents the number unemployed as a percent of the labor force.

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